Is there anybody willing to take this product over?

[kafi]

Since there is lack of future for this product, I wish that there is somebody willing to take this product over officialy.
ElfMage did wonderfull job here, but now it is pitty that this product lost his future.

ElfMage was too good for the support but what we will be satisfied with is the continuall developement of this product. We do not need that perfect support - I can imagine that such support is exhausting and not rewarded properly.

Second thing - i suggest that there is also price change according what developers think he needs to pay his job. ElfMage was giving too much for low price and it ended up like this...

ElfMage plese give this product a chance. It is your baby do not let it die .

[Induslady]

Kafi,

Can you post this in vbulletin.com, vbulletin.org, vbulletin-faq.com etc so that we have a better chance of finding someone who might be interested? Agree with everything you are saying. It will be a great solution if someone is willing to take this product over and continue the development and support.

This is one of the most compelling add-on products for vbulletin. We have barely scratched the surface on the wiki-revolution. This product has so much potential and I am sure people will be interested.

There are so many customers waiting in the wings!

[pipin]

it cant be taken over without any admission.

[kafi]

Yes I can not post anywhere. I started this also to show ElfMage that we care about this product and that there is this option too. Maybe if somebody from here like pipin can show interest ElfMage might consider this.
But of course it is up to ElfMage to announce something like this. I am just custommer demanding this service

[pipin]

Originally Posted by kafi

Yes I can not post anywhere. I started this also to show ElfMage that we care about this product and that there is this option too. Maybe if somebody from here like pipin can show interest ElfMage might consider this.
But of course it is up to ElfMage to announce something like this. I am just custommer demanding this service

Hell, no. Im no coder and i'm already heavily involved in the development of a cms with a kind of a vb connection.

[Induslady]

Offcourse offcourse..the product can't be taken over without the owner handing it off, but if there are many takers with proposals, maybe it would make the decision and the process easier for Elfmage. But, I understand what you are saying Kafi.

What about Pegasus and Alfa1? Would they be interested? I read somewhere that Pegasus is already doing some development of this product and Alfa1 is doing a great job providing customer support. One coding expert + one marketing/customer service expert. Talk about a combination to take this product to great heights!

Everyone and anyone reading it..this product has unbelievable potential. If you are a code, don't let a golden opportunity pass by!

[Alfa1]

The main problem is that we do not know what is going on with Elfmage. There is no expectancy of when things will be back to normal or if they will be at all. In any case, it would be optimal if there would be additional coder(s), so that development and support do not solely rely on Elfmage.

I greatly applaud Pegasus his move to release a new version / supplement to Nuwiki.

[pegasus]

I'm flattered that my name came up twice in this conversation. As for my supplement, I do intend to release it soon. It's just kind of ridiculous that back in September I thought I had pretty much extended NuWiki to its fullest potential already, but pretty much every week since October I have thought of some crazy new feature to add that just results in the delay of the release again.

It's sad that development on default NuWiki came to a halt when it did, especially when all this discovered potential is so difficult for newbie users to unlock without the NEXT official NuWiki patch (it was going to have hook locations).

[Induslady]

I am starting to see rays of hope here.

Alfa1/Pegasus, I am glad that you both didn't flat out refuse to discuss this any further. One hypothetical question, would you both be willing to take over if Elfmage is ok with it? You might already know this, but let me reiterate...this product has unbelievable potential. This is not a better version of another hack..this is the ONLY product of its kind in the market. As forums become messy with millions of posts, it is becoming increasingly difficult for individuals to wade through all those posts to get refined content. Wiki is the next-generation of that user-generated content, but compiled in a way that is super-easy, time saving and enormously valuable. If you can take this product over, you both have a winner in your hands.

Alfa1, Is Elfmage completely inaccessible? Do you know his telephone number to call him and talk to him about this? If he is processing refund requests and if he is logging in (last activity on 2/13), isn't there someway to contact him?

Pegasus, I am not a coder, so forgive my ignorance. How long would it take for you to back-extend your supplement into a full wiki product? Is that even doable? Just exploring options in case we couldn't get in contact with Elfmage.

Elfmage, if you are reading this as a guest, please chime in. You would be doing yourself and the vbulletin community a big favor if you just say a simple yes to handing over this code to capable hands. Its fair to do that.

[pegasus]

Originally Posted by Induslady

Pegasus, I am not a coder, so forgive my ignorance. How long would it take for you to back-extend your supplement into a full wiki product? Is that even doable? Just exploring options in case we couldn't get in contact with Elfmage.

I was considering doing something along those lines anyway to keep the installation process simple. IF I decided go in that direction, basically the original NuWiki would have just been necessary to install the various DB tables and settings. Or I could have completely rewritten the original and added a "enter your Licence number here" to validate. While I have considered charging for the supplement itself, I would not feel comfortable creating a completely separate product for legal reasons.

[kafi]

Hi pegasus, your approach seems to be promising
Lets see what ElfMage has to say.

[Induslady]

Originally Posted by pegasus

I was considering doing something along those lines anyway to keep the installation process simple. IF I decided go in that direction, basically the original NuWiki would have just been necessary to install the various DB tables and settings. Or I could have completely rewritten the original and added a "enter your Licence number here" to validate. While I have considered charging for the supplement itself, I would not feel comfortable creating a completely separate product for legal reasons.

Hi Pegasus, Thanks for the reply. Your approach seems a whole lot promising and you have given a lot of people hope. Lets take this to some practical solution. Couple of questions for you.

1. A completely separate product is probably the cleanest way to go for your customers, right? What is the legal hurdle for not being able to create a completely separate product? What would you need from Elfmage (in terms of approval or transfer of ownership or something) that would make you legally clean in creating a completely separate product? The reason I am asking this question is because if we were able to get in touch with elfmage, we can put a specific request to him as oppossed to a generic "can you transfer ownership" kind of request.

2. In the event a completely separate product is not possible, the second option you laid out (italics below) is more preferrable, I guess. If you were to do this, how long or how close are you to a product release?

Or I could have completely rewritten the original and added a "enter your Licence number here" to validate.

[kafi]

There is also new developing add-on http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showt...60#post1462160 that resemble Nurating.
However Nurating is further in functionality and bug-free.
Is there any chance that Elfmage will approach waza (developer at vb.org) and talk to him if there is a chance to take Nurating over?
It is pitty for Nurating to be left for nothing.
I have bought even two licenses, because it was freaking cheap and am using only one
My community is getting used to it and I have told them that this is the way how they can help to moderate my forum.
If there is a bad post it will get dugg and everybody is happy...

What should I do if there is no more support and update for Nuratings ?????????

[MaestroX]

Hello,

I'd just like to add my interest in taking over development for vbwikipro. Contacting Elfage looks difficult, but I think for the sake of the community we must make every effort get these products available to the community again.

Kind Regards

[Alfa1]

I have sent out messages in several ways to Elfmage urgently requesting him to contact me. I am very willing to pursue moderation of nuwiki.com, but I would just hate to find this site gone one day.

Please see my post here

Further: I would be interested to contribute to any NuWiki addon development or any other development of NuWiki. (as long as NuHits rights are upheld)